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== Vision ==
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To facilitate a network of Instant Messaging that contributes to:
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== NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network ==
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=== What it is ===
  
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* NVC people around the world meeting and connecting online.
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Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.
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* A shared place to learn and develop NVC skills.
 
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* Regional/interest specific communities.
 
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* A safe place to look for and offer support.
 
  
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== The suggested mechanics ==
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People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.
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Current technology offers ways to create text chat rooms for every kind of subject, we start with these chat(should it be conversion? meeting? conference? something else?) rooms:
 
  
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*By topics:
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NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.  
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**NVC Parenting.
 
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**NVC Practice.
 
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**NVC Theory discussion.
 
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**NVC Support give&get.
 
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**NVC Certified trainers.
 
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**NVC Non certified trainers.
 
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**NVC Certification candidates.
 
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**NVC Business.
 
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**NVC Education.
 
  
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*By Region/Country/State.
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We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.  
  
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We are happy to support anyone who like to have an additional text chat room.
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This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.
  
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=== Joining ===
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=== Joining - ''Now open'' ===
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Via IM or web
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Using a messenger or web  
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[[Instant_Messaging_Network/Email_of_invention]]
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[[Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation]]
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==== To join with your messenger: ====
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===== AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live =====
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1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:
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For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk"
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For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @)
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Other messengers are available just ask.
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Do the same for every topic you would like to join:
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*NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
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*NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
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*NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
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*NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
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*NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
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*NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
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*NVCeducation - NVC education.
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We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.
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2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.
  
 
=== How does it work? ===
 
=== How does it work? ===
  
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NVCimhub will create a text chat room for each topic and invite all people interested in that topic. We have IM bridges so that everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.
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NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.
  
 
== Current status & issues ==
 
== Current status & issues ==
  
 
=== Current status===
 
=== Current status===
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* Will talk Per Marcuse's suggestion at the next nvc-it team conference call at monday 12. March.
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* Network is up and running.
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* Technical aspect seems to be complete in theory (needs to be tested).
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* Will send email to nvcgeek list.
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=== Approached communities ===
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* Have approched LA and NM nvc communites to try it out.
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[[CNVC_GCC]] 4 April 2007 [[Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC]]
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[http://www.communicatingwithcompassion.org/  Communicating with Compassion] 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez
  
 
=== Ways to distribute the message ===
 
=== Ways to distribute the message ===
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*Ways that we know of:
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*[[Growing Compassion]] users - [http://www.growingcompassion.com/]
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*through online NVC groups:
 
**[[Mailing lists]]
 
**[[Mailing lists]]
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**[[Nvc tribe]] - http://nvc.tribe.net/
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**Web-based groups:
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**[[Growing Compassion]] users - http://www.growingcompassion.com/
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***[http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=102791534&MyToken=556d27e4-afa3-4ee4-a46b-027c258efad5 Myspace] 97
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**through local NVC groups
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***[http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=22444 Orkut] 528 login first then follow the link to reach the group.
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***[[Nvc tribe]] - http://nvc.tribe.net/ 218
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*Local groups and websites supporting nvc
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**http://cnvc.org/network.aspx
  
 
=== Technical side ===
 
=== Technical side ===
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How to realize this (the mechanics of it).
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How to realize this (the mechanics of it)
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* Creating a website for this.
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*[http://news.com.com/Yahoo,+Microsoft+join+IM+hands/2100-1025_3-5893802.html IM market] AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
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* Creating web form [[Instant Messaging Network/Web for answering invention]]
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** This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now
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* "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html
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** [http://news.com.com/Yahoo,+Microsoft+join+IM+hands/2100-1025_3-5893802.html IM market] AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
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==== Web interface ====
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* web (flash) to messenger http://www.plugoo.com/
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* web (html) to messenger http://www.imunitive.net/
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==== AIM/MSN/Yahoo ====
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* http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
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** From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
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** It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
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** IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.
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==== Skype ====
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There two kinds of multi user chats in skype
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1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)
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* Requires skype ver. 3+
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* Can be published as a link
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* You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.
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2. group chats
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* Works with any skype version
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* Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
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* Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.
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If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.
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For unix,mac updated  skype ver <3
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=== Resources ===
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* (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html
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* [[CNVC]] (there's a page or two in the wiki here somewhere for their IT group)
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** Trillian  features http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/compare/
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*[http://nvctraining.com/registration/go.php?r=1094 NVCAcademy]
 
  
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=== Cooperations  ===
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=== Resources and groups to cooperate with ===
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*[http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net NVC Geeks]
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* [[CNVC]] - [[NVC_IT_Status]]
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* [http://nvctraining.com/ NVC Academy]
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* [http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net NVC Geeks]
 
* [http://www.growingcompassion.com/ Growing Compassion]
 
* [http://www.growingcompassion.com/ Growing Compassion]
  
 
=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
 
=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
 
=== Ideas on content for the network ===
 
=== Ideas on content for the network ===
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Current ideas:
 
 
* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
 
* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
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* Public chat rooms by subject.
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* Chat rooms by subject.
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* Public casts.
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* Chat rooms by language.
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* nvcIM group casts.
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== Future plans ==
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* Ask people for their details and put it in a searchable database which will include their online status.
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** [[Instant Messaging Network/Web for answering invention]]
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** Could be integrated with CNVC IT project, maybe Drupal.
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* Creating a website for this.
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=== cnvc IT synergy ===
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Via [[NVC IT Status]]
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*8 Requirements we'd like to meet
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**8.1 Urgent requirements
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Affiliation_groups 8.1.4 Affiliation groups]
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Collaborative_workspaces 8.1.7 Forums/chat rooms]
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== Miscellanies links ==
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*http://www.yackpack.com/organizations.html
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** YackPack is simple voice communication for groups.YackPack is web-based – no software to download. YackPack lets you talk live or record & send messages.
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*http://www.radiohandi.com/
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**Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
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**Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2007/01/16/the-various-ways-visitors-can-communicate-with-blog-owners
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/12/04/visitors-can-im-chat-from-your-blog/
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/06/28/blog-chats/
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* Online group chat made easy http://chat.zoho.com/ 
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* Chat Services (23 sites) http://www.econsultant.com/web2/chat-services.html
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* Click this: [[Internet Relay Chat]] for info on (IRC), the original I.M.
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*http://www.ciolek.com/OWTRAD/iso3166-countrycodes.html
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*http://www.skyscanner.net/
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=== English, NVCness and clearness ===
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== NVCtalk facilitators ==
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* I am not a native English speaker so I would appreciate style and language corrections.
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[[User:John Abbe|John Abbe]]
  
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* I am only 1 year nvc, so I would appreciate style and language corrections :)
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[[User:Markus Pallo | Markus Pallo]]
  
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* help me make this wiki and the letters clear.
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[[User:Wpoehner|William Poehner]]

Latest revision as of 09:30, 31 July 2007

We welcome editing of this page, it would work best for us if you login before editing so we will know whom to approach if we have questions regarding the changes you submitted.

NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network

What it is

Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.

People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.

NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.

We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.

This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.

Joining - Now open

Using a messenger or web Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation

To join with your messenger:

AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live

1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:

For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk" For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @) Other messengers are available just ask.

Do the same for every topic you would like to join:

  • NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
  • NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
  • NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
  • NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
  • NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
  • NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
  • NVCeducation - NVC education.

We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.

2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.

How does it work?

NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.

Current status & issues

Current status

  • Network is up and running.

Approached communities

CNVC_GCC 4 April 2007 Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC

Communicating with Compassion 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez

Ways to distribute the message

Technical side

How to realize this (the mechanics of it)

  • IM market AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
    • This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now

Web interface

AIM/MSN/Yahoo

  • http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
    • From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
    • It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
    • IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.

Skype

There two kinds of multi user chats in skype

1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)

  • Requires skype ver. 3+
  • Can be published as a link
  • You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.

2. group chats

  • Works with any skype version
  • Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
  • Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.

If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.

For unix,mac updated skype ver <3


  • (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html

Resources and groups to cooperate with

Ideas on how to attract people

Ideas on content for the network

  • World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
  • Chat rooms by subject.
  • Chat rooms by language.


Future plans

cnvc IT synergy

Via NVC IT Status

Miscellanies links

  • http://www.radiohandi.com/
    • Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
    • Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.


NVCtalk facilitators

John Abbe

Markus Pallo

William Poehner

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