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== Vision ==
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To create a network of Instant Messaging.
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== NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network ==
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=== What it is ===
  
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* Have live online links between all NVC people around the world.
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Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.
  
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* Creating regional/interest specific communities.
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People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.
  
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* Creating a worldwide NVC community.
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NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.  
  
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* Enabling individuals and groups to get to know and exchange resources.
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We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.  
  
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== The mechanics ==
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This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.
  
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The network is of NVC people, but people don't seem to think it is enough to create a connection there should a topic to focus on.
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=== Joining - ''Now open'' ===
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Using a messenger or web
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[[Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation]]
  
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So suggested chat rooms:
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==== To join with your messenger: ====
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===== AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live =====
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1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:  
  
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*By topics:
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For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk"
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**NVC Panting.
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For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @)
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**NVC Practice.
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Other messengers are available just ask.  
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**NVC Theory discussion.
 
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**NVC Support give&get.
 
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**NVC Certified trainers.
 
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**NVC Non certified trainers.
 
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**NVC Certification candidates.
 
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**NVC Business.
 
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**NVC Education.
 
  
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*By Region/Country/State.
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Do the same for every topic you would like to join:
  
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*Private chat rooms will be available as well for interest groups.
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*NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
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*NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
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*NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
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*NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
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*NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
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*NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
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*NVCeducation - NVC education.
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We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.
  
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Everybody has different messengers.
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2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.
  
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There will be one username which will be registered in all IM networks. for instance nvcIMadmin.
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=== How does it work? ===
  
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So a user which will join will add nvcIMadmin to his contact list in his preferred messenger.
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NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.
  
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nvcIMadmin will create a text chat room and invite all people interested in that chat room. this will be done per messenger or a few messengers bridged.
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== Current status & issues ==
  
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=== ideal world vs. reality ===
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=== Current status===
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* Network is up and running.
  
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In the ideal world for the network:
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=== Approached communities ===
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* Any member would use his preferred IM which will be bridged to any other IM.
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[[CNVC_GCC]] 4 April 2007 [[Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC]]
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* Shared group - when adding a new member to the group the group is updated for all members.
 
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* Every IM would have a group of switchable database of nvcIM network members.
 
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* Text chats/voice chats would have unlimited number of people which can use any IM.
 
  
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In reality:
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[http://www.communicatingwithcompassion.org/  Communicating with Compassion] 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez
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* Some IM are bridged
 
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** Yahoo-Live messenger (MSN)
 
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** ICQ-AOL
 
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** TODO: check if multiprotocol instant messaging applications can bridge network for group chats.
 
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*** Trillian
 
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**** there is group chat but you can't select a few people and add them to the chat
 
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****
 
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* Shared group
 
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** only with skype (starting from 2.5)
 
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* Search able group members
 
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** only with skype by changing the username and then searching within it.
 
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* Text/voice chats
 
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** Skype 100 people
 
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** to fill in others
 
  
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== The mechanics of approaching and registering people ==
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=== Ways to distribute the message ===
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*[[Growing Compassion]] users - [http://www.growingcompassion.com/]
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*through online NVC groups:
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**[[Mailing lists]]
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**Web-based groups:
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***[http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=102791534&MyToken=556d27e4-afa3-4ee4-a46b-027c258efad5 Myspace] 97
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***[http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=22444 Orkut] 528 login first then follow the link to reach the group.
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***[[Nvc tribe]] - http://nvc.tribe.net/ 218
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*Local groups and websites supporting nvc
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**http://cnvc.org/network.aspx
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=== Technical side ===
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How to realize this (the mechanics of it)
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*[http://news.com.com/Yahoo,+Microsoft+join+IM+hands/2100-1025_3-5893802.html IM market] AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
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** This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now
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==== Web interface ====
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* web (flash) to messenger http://www.plugoo.com/
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* web (html) to messenger http://www.imunitive.net/
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==== AIM/MSN/Yahoo ====
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* http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
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** From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
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** It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
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** IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.
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==== Skype ====
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There two kinds of multi user chats in skype
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1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)
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* Requires skype ver. 3+
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* Can be published as a link
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* You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.
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2. group chats
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* Works with any skype version
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* Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
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* Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.
  
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Most people will be approached via email
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If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.
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[[Instant Messaging Network/Email of invention]]
 
  
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*current
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For unix,mac updated  skype ver <3
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** Email [[Instant Messaging Network/Email for answering invention]] (current system)
 
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*suggested
 
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** Web form (wizard) [[Instant Messaging Network/Web for answering invention]] (only the planning)
 
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***I belive Web form is better
 
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**** No need for the user to send back email - recive questions and send the answers.
 
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**** A web link is accable by email.
 
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****To create a web form
 
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***** need web space
 
  
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== What help do I need ==
 
  
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=== Ways to distribute the message ===
 
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*Ways that we know of:
 
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**[[Mailing lists]]
 
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**[[Growing Compassion]] users - http://www.growingcompassion.com/
 
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**[[NVC Academy]] users - http://nvctraining.com/
 
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**through local NVC groups
 
  
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=== Technical advice and consulting ===
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* (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html
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How to realize this (the mechanics of it).
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** Trillian  features http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/compare/
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* Creating a website for this.
 
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* Creating web form [[Instant Messaging Network/Web for answering invention]]
 
  
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=== referring to other resources ===
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=== Resources and groups to cooperate with ===
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Who we are cooperating with:
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* [[CNVC]] - [[NVC_IT_Status]]
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* NVC Geeks - http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net
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* [http://nvctraining.com/ NVC Academy]
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* Growing Compassion - http://www.growingcompassion.com/
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* [http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net NVC Geeks]
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* [[CNVC]] (there's a page or two in the wiki here somewhere for their IT group)
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* [http://www.growingcompassion.com/ Growing Compassion]
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* NVC Academy - http://nvctraining.com/
 
  
 
=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
 
=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
 
=== Ideas on content for the network ===
 
=== Ideas on content for the network ===
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Current ideas:
 
 
* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
 
* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
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* Public chat rooms by subject.
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* Chat rooms by subject.
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* Public casts.
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* Chat rooms by language.
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* nvcIM group casts.
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== Future plans ==
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* Ask people for their details and put it in a searchable database which will include their online status.
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** [[Instant Messaging Network/Web for answering invention]]
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** Could be integrated with CNVC IT project, maybe Drupal.
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* Creating a website for this.
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=== cnvc IT synergy ===
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Via [[NVC IT Status]]
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*8 Requirements we'd like to meet
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**8.1 Urgent requirements
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Affiliation_groups 8.1.4 Affiliation groups]
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Collaborative_workspaces 8.1.7 Forums/chat rooms]
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== Miscellanies links ==
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*http://www.yackpack.com/organizations.html
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** YackPack is simple voice communication for groups.YackPack is web-based – no software to download. YackPack lets you talk live or record & send messages.
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*http://www.radiohandi.com/
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**Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
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**Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2007/01/16/the-various-ways-visitors-can-communicate-with-blog-owners
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/12/04/visitors-can-im-chat-from-your-blog/
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/06/28/blog-chats/
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* Online group chat made easy http://chat.zoho.com/ 
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* Chat Services (23 sites) http://www.econsultant.com/web2/chat-services.html
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* Click this: [[Internet Relay Chat]] for info on (IRC), the original I.M.
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*http://www.ciolek.com/OWTRAD/iso3166-countrycodes.html
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*http://www.skyscanner.net/
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=== English, NVCness and clearness ===
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== NVCtalk facilitators ==
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* I am not a native english speaker so I would appreciate style and language corrections.
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[[User:John Abbe|John Abbe]]
  
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* I am only 1 year nvc, so I would appreciate style and language corrections :)
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[[User:Markus Pallo | Markus Pallo]]
  
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* help me make this wiki and the letters clear.
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[[User:Wpoehner|William Poehner]]

Latest revision as of 08:30, 31 July 2007

We welcome editing of this page, it would work best for us if you login before editing so we will know whom to approach if we have questions regarding the changes you submitted.

NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network

What it is

Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.

People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.

NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.

We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.

This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.

Joining - Now open

Using a messenger or web Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation

To join with your messenger:

AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live

1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:

For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk" For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @) Other messengers are available just ask.

Do the same for every topic you would like to join:

  • NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
  • NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
  • NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
  • NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
  • NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
  • NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
  • NVCeducation - NVC education.

We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.

2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.

How does it work?

NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.

Current status & issues

Current status

  • Network is up and running.

Approached communities

CNVC_GCC 4 April 2007 Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC

Communicating with Compassion 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez

Ways to distribute the message

Technical side

How to realize this (the mechanics of it)

  • IM market AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
    • This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now

Web interface

AIM/MSN/Yahoo

  • http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
    • From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
    • It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
    • IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.

Skype

There two kinds of multi user chats in skype

1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)

  • Requires skype ver. 3+
  • Can be published as a link
  • You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.

2. group chats

  • Works with any skype version
  • Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
  • Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.

If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.

For unix,mac updated skype ver <3


  • (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html

Resources and groups to cooperate with

Ideas on how to attract people

Ideas on content for the network

  • World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
  • Chat rooms by subject.
  • Chat rooms by language.


Future plans

cnvc IT synergy

Via NVC IT Status

Miscellanies links

  • http://www.radiohandi.com/
    • Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
    • Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.


NVCtalk facilitators

John Abbe

Markus Pallo

William Poehner

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