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== Vision ==
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We welcome editing of this page, it would work best for us if you login before editing so we will know whom to approach if we have questions regarding the changes you submitted.
  
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To create a network of Instant Messaging.
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== NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network ==
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=== What it is ===
  
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What uses are for this network:
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Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.
  
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To whom it is for:
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People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.
  
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== What help do I need ==
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NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.
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We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.
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This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.
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=== Joining - ''Now open'' ===
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Using a messenger or web
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[[Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation]]
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==== To join with your messenger: ====
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===== AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live =====
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1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:
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For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk"
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For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @)
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Other messengers are available just ask.
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Do the same for every topic you would like to join:
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*NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
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*NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
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*NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
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*NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
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*NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
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*NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
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*NVCeducation - NVC education.
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We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.
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2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.
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=== How does it work? ===
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NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.
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== Current status & issues ==
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=== Current status===
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* Network is up and running.
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=== Approached communities ===
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[[CNVC_GCC]] 4 April 2007 [[Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC]]
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[http://www.communicatingwithcompassion.org/  Communicating with Compassion] 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez
  
 
=== Ways to distribute the message ===
 
=== Ways to distribute the message ===
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*Ways that we know of:
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*[[Growing Compassion]] users - [http://www.growingcompassion.com/]
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*through online NVC groups:
 
**[[Mailing lists]]
 
**[[Mailing lists]]
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**[[Growing Compassion]] users - http://www.growingcompassion.com/
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**Web-based groups:
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**[[NVC Academy]] users - http://nvctraining.com/
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***[http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=102791534&MyToken=556d27e4-afa3-4ee4-a46b-027c258efad5 Myspace] 97
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**through local NVC groups
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***[http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=22444 Orkut] 528 login first then follow the link to reach the group.
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***[[Nvc tribe]] - http://nvc.tribe.net/ 218
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*Local groups and websites supporting nvc
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**http://cnvc.org/network.aspx
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=== Technical side ===
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How to realize this (the mechanics of it)
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*[http://news.com.com/Yahoo,+Microsoft+join+IM+hands/2100-1025_3-5893802.html IM market] AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
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** This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now
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==== Web interface ====
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* web (flash) to messenger http://www.plugoo.com/
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* web (html) to messenger http://www.imunitive.net/
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==== AIM/MSN/Yahoo ====
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* http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
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** From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
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** It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
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** IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.
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==== Skype ====
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There two kinds of multi user chats in skype
  
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=== Technical advice and consulting ===
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1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)
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How to realize this (the mechanics of it).
 
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*Creating a website for this.
 
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*Creating a form which will be fed into a database and automating the process of adding people to the network.
 
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** Do you currently have a messenger?
 
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*** Yes
 
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**** select your preferred Messenger:
 
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***** Skype
 
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***** Windows Live (MSN)
 
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***** Yahoo
 
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***** GTalk
 
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***** AIM
 
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***** ICQ
 
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***** Jabber
 
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***** [[Internet Relay Chat]]
 
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***** (add more here)
 
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****** Enter your messenger name and your user ID.
 
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**** Add "nvcIMadmin@(this is scrambled to avoid spam).com" to your contact list (applicable for MSN/Yahoo/gtalk/ICQ)
 
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**** What is user ID with your preferred messenger?
 
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**** Optional data
 
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****** First name?
 
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****** Last name?
 
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****** Country?
 
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****** State/Province?
 
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****** City?
 
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****** Year of starting NVC?
 
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****** Certified trainer?
 
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******* Yes
 
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******* No (default)
 
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****** certification candidate?
 
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******* Yes
 
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******* No (default)
 
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*** No
 
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*** I have IRC
 
  
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=== referring to other resources ===
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* Requires skype ver. 3+
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Who we are cooperating with:
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* Can be published as a link
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* NVC Geeks - http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net
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* You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.
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* Growing Compassion - http://www.growingcompassion.com/
 
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* [[CNVC]] (there's a page or two in the wiki here somewhere for their IT group)
 
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* NVC Academy - http://nvctraining.com/
 
  
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=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
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2. group chats
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=== Ideas on content for the network ===
 
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Current ideas:
 
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* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
 
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* Public chat rooms by subject.
 
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* Public casts.
 
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* nvcIM group casts.
 
  
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=== English, NVCness and clearness ===
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* Works with any skype version
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* I am not a native english speaker so I would appreciate style and language corrections.
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* Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
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* Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.
  
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* I am only 1 year nvc, so I would appreciate style and language corrections :)
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If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.
  
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* help me make this wiki and the letters clear.
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For unix,mac updated  skype ver <3
  
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== Email of invention ==
 
  
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Subject :NVC Instant Messaging network - new way to connect.
 
  
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Content:
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* (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html
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** Trillian  features http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/compare/
  
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Shalom (Hello in Hebrew),
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=== Resources and groups to cooperate with ===
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* [[CNVC]] - [[NVC_IT_Status]]
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* [http://nvctraining.com/ NVC Academy]
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* [http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net NVC Geeks]
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* [http://www.growingcompassion.com/ Growing Compassion]
  
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My name is Noam and I'm a NVC supporter from Israel.
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=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
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=== Ideas on content for the network ===
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* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
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* Chat rooms by subject.
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* Chat rooms by language.
  
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I am starting a nvc Instant Messaging (nvcIM) social network and
 
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sending you this email via cnvc website hoping you will join.
 
  
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The advantages of using IM are:
 
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* Instantly get response and support.
 
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* Hear & see the other party.
 
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* Public text/audio casts/chats up to 100 people.
 
  
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The purpose is:
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== Future plans ==
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* Live online practice groups.
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* Ask people for their details and put it in a searchable database which will include their online status.
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* Learning and teaching NVC.
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** [[Instant Messaging Network/Web for answering invention]]
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* Getting to know new NVC people.
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** Could be integrated with CNVC IT project, maybe Drupal.
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* Getting and giving support NVC style.
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* Creating a website for this.
  
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and community events like a worldwide NVC happy hour, an online
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=== cnvc IT synergy ===
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gathering at a designated time of the week.
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Via [[NVC IT Status]]
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*8 Requirements we'd like to meet
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**8.1 Urgent requirements
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Affiliation_groups 8.1.4 Affiliation groups]
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Collaborative_workspaces 8.1.7 Forums/chat rooms]
  
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All messengers types can join:
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== Miscellanies links ==
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Skype, Windows Live (MSN), Yahoo, GTalk, AIM, ICQ, Jabber , [[Internet Relay Chat]], anything
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*http://www.yackpack.com/organizations.html
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else :)
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** YackPack is simple voice communication for groups.YackPack is web-based – no software to download. YackPack lets you talk live or record & send messages.
  
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This will meet my needs for a connection, community and contributing
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*http://www.radiohandi.com/
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to others wellbeing.
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**Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
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**Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.
  
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I feel excited when I imagine hundreds of NVC people connecting in
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2007/01/16/the-various-ways-visitors-can-communicate-with-blog-owners
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this new way as I believe it can create a community which will
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/12/04/visitors-can-im-chat-from-your-blog/
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enrich everybody's experience with NVC.
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/06/28/blog-chats/
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* Online group chat made easy http://chat.zoho.com/ 
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* Chat Services (23 sites) http://www.econsultant.com/web2/chat-services.html
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* Click this: [[Internet Relay Chat]] for info on (IRC), the original I.M.
  
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To join :
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*http://www.ciolek.com/OWTRAD/iso3166-countrycodes.html
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* Reply to this email
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*http://www.skyscanner.net/
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* Specify your messenger type and user name.
 
  
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If you rather not join, I would very much value your input on what
 
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needs of yours are not meet by this?
 
  
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If you have any questions or want to support, I'll be happy to get
 
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your email.
 
  
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Warmly,
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== NVCtalk facilitators ==
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[[User:John Abbe|John Abbe]]
  
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Noam,
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[[User:Markus Pallo | Markus Pallo]]
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nvcIM admin
 
  
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[[Instant Messaging Network/Email of invention]]
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[[User:Wpoehner|William Poehner]]

Latest revision as of 08:30, 31 July 2007

We welcome editing of this page, it would work best for us if you login before editing so we will know whom to approach if we have questions regarding the changes you submitted.

NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network

What it is

Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.

People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.

NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.

We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.

This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.

Joining - Now open

Using a messenger or web Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation

To join with your messenger:

AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live

1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:

For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk" For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @) Other messengers are available just ask.

Do the same for every topic you would like to join:

  • NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
  • NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
  • NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
  • NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
  • NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
  • NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
  • NVCeducation - NVC education.

We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.

2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.

How does it work?

NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.

Current status & issues

Current status

  • Network is up and running.

Approached communities

CNVC_GCC 4 April 2007 Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC

Communicating with Compassion 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez

Ways to distribute the message

Technical side

How to realize this (the mechanics of it)

  • IM market AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
    • This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now

Web interface

AIM/MSN/Yahoo

  • http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
    • From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
    • It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
    • IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.

Skype

There two kinds of multi user chats in skype

1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)

  • Requires skype ver. 3+
  • Can be published as a link
  • You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.

2. group chats

  • Works with any skype version
  • Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
  • Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.

If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.

For unix,mac updated skype ver <3


  • (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html

Resources and groups to cooperate with

Ideas on how to attract people

Ideas on content for the network

  • World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
  • Chat rooms by subject.
  • Chat rooms by language.


Future plans

cnvc IT synergy

Via NVC IT Status

Miscellanies links

  • http://www.radiohandi.com/
    • Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
    • Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.


NVCtalk facilitators

John Abbe

Markus Pallo

William Poehner

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