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== Vision ==
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To create a network of Instant Messaging.
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== NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network ==
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=== What it is ===
  
What uses are for this network:
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Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.
  
To whom it is for:
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People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.
  
== What help do I need ==
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NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.
  
=== Ways to distribute the message ===
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We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.
*Ways that we know of:
 
**[[Mailing lists]]
 
**[[Growing Compassion]] users
 
**[[NVC Academy]] users
 
**through local NVC groups
 
  
=== Technical advice and consulting ===
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This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.
How to realize this (the mechanics of it).
 
*Creating a website for this.
 
*Creating a form which will be fed into a database and automating the process of adding people to the network.
 
** Do you currently have a messenger?
 
*** Yes
 
**** select your preferred Messenger:
 
***** Skype
 
***** Windows Live (MSN)
 
***** Yahoo
 
***** GTalk
 
***** AIM
 
***** ICQ
 
***** Jabber
 
***** [[Internet Relay Chat]]
 
***** (add more here)
 
****** Enter your messenger name and your user ID.
 
**** Add "nvcIMadmin@(this is scrambled to avoid spam).com" to your contact list (applicable for MSN/Yahoo/gtalk/ICQ)
 
**** What is user ID with your preferred messenger?
 
**** Optional data
 
****** First name?
 
****** Last name?
 
****** Country?
 
****** State/Province?
 
****** City?
 
****** Year of starting NVC?
 
****** Certified trainer?
 
******* Yes
 
******* No (default)
 
****** certification candidate?
 
******* Yes
 
******* No (default)
 
*** No
 
*** I have IRC
 
  
=== referring to other resources ===
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=== Joining - ''Now open'' ===
Who we are cooperating with:
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Using a messenger or web
* NVC Geeks - http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net
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[[Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation]]
* Growing Compassion - http://www.growingcompassion.com/
 
* [[CNVC]] (there's a page in the wiki here somewhere with an IT link)
 
* NVC Academy - http://nvctraining.com/
 
  
=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
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==== To join with your messenger: ====
=== Ideas on content for the network ===
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===== AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live =====
Current ideas:
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1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:  
* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
 
* Public chat rooms by subject.
 
* Public casts.
 
* nvcIM group casts.
 
  
=== English, NVCness and clearness ===
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For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk"
* I am not a native english speaker so I would appreciate style and language corrections.
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For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @)
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Other messengers are available just ask.  
  
* I am only 1 year nvc, so I would appreciate style and language corrections :)
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Do the same for every topic you would like to join:
  
* help me make this wiki and the letters clear.
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*NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
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*NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
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*NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
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*NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
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*NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
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*NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
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*NVCeducation - NVC education.
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We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.
  
== Email of invention ==
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2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.
  
Subject :NVC Instant Messaging network - new way to connect.
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=== How does it work? ===
  
Content:
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NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.
  
Shalom (Hello in Hebrew),
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== Current status & issues ==
  
My name is Noam and I'm a NVC supporter from Israel.
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=== Current status===
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* Network is up and running.
  
I am starting a nvc Instant Messaging (nvcIM) social network and
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=== Approached communities ===
sending you this email via cnvc website hoping you will join.
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[[CNVC_GCC]] 4 April 2007 [[Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC]]
  
The advantages of using IM are:
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[http://www.communicatingwithcompassion.org/ Communicating with Compassion] 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez
* Instantly get response and support.
 
* Hear & see the other party.
 
* Public text/audio casts/chats up to 100 people.
 
  
The purpose is:
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=== Ways to distribute the message ===
* Live online practice groups.
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*[[Growing Compassion]] users - [http://www.growingcompassion.com/]
* Learning and teaching NVC.
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*through online NVC groups:
* Getting to know new NVC people.
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**[[Mailing lists]]
* Getting and giving support NVC style.
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**Web-based groups:
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***[http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=102791534&MyToken=556d27e4-afa3-4ee4-a46b-027c258efad5 Myspace] 97
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***[http://www.orkut.com/Community.aspx?cmm=22444 Orkut] 528 login first then follow the link to reach the group.
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***[[Nvc tribe]] - http://nvc.tribe.net/ 218
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*Local groups and websites supporting nvc
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**http://cnvc.org/network.aspx
  
and community events like a worldwide NVC happy hour, an online
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=== Technical side ===
gathering at a designated time of the week.
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How to realize this (the mechanics of it)
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*[http://news.com.com/Yahoo,+Microsoft+join+IM+hands/2100-1025_3-5893802.html IM market] AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
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** This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now
  
All messengers types can join:
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==== Web interface ====
Skype, Windows Live (MSN), Yahoo, GTalk, AIM, ICQ, Jabber , anything
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* web (flash) to messenger http://www.plugoo.com/
else :)
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* web (html) to messenger http://www.imunitive.net/
  
This will meet my needs for a connection, community and contributing
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==== AIM/MSN/Yahoo ====
to others wellbeing.
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* http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
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** From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
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** It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
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** IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.
  
I feel excited when I imagine hundreds of NVC people connecting in
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==== Skype ====
this new way as I believe it can create a community which will
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There two kinds of multi user chats in skype
enrich everybody's experience with NVC.
 
  
To join :
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1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)
* Reply to this email
 
* Specify your messenger type and user name.
 
  
If you rather not join, I would very much value your input on what
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* Requires skype ver. 3+
needs of yours are not meet by this?
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* Can be published as a link
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* You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.
  
If you have any questions or want to support, I'll be happy to get
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2. group chats
your email.
 
  
Warmly,
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* Works with any skype version
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* Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
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* Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.
  
Noam,
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If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.
nvcIM admin
 
  
== Email for answering invention ==
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For unix,mac updated  skype ver <3
  
TODO:
 
1. Make clear what items are optional and how they are used.
 
  
Subject: Welcome to the nvcIM network
 
  
content:
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* (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html
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** Trillian  features http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/compare/
  
The purpose of nvcIM network is to create a NVC Instant Messaging network.
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=== Resources and groups to cooperate with ===
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* [[CNVC]] - [[NVC_IT_Status]]
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* [http://nvctraining.com/ NVC Academy]
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* [http://nvclive.net/mailman/listinfo/nvcgeek_nvclive.net NVC Geeks]
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* [http://www.growingcompassion.com/ Growing Compassion]
  
This is done by:
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=== Ideas on how to attract people ===
A. A list of on NVC IM for each type of messenger.
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=== Ideas on content for the network ===
B. Using skype as a common messenger.
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* World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
 
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* Chat rooms by subject.
A. Please answer the following questions:
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* Chat rooms by language.
 
 
1. Main messenger other then skype (MSN/Yahoo/AIM/gtalk/ICQ...)?
 
 
 
2. Your ID with that messenger?
 
 
 
3. First name?
 
 
 
4. Last name?
 
 
 
4. Country?
 
 
 
5. State/Province?
 
  
6. City?
 
  
7. Year of starting NVC?
 
  
8. Are you a certified trainer?
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== Future plans ==
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* Ask people for their details and put it in a searchable database which will include their online status.
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** [[Instant Messaging Network/Web for answering invention]]
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** Could be integrated with CNVC IT project, maybe Drupal.
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* Creating a website for this.
  
9. Are you a certification candidate?
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=== cnvc IT synergy ===
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Via [[NVC IT Status]]
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*8 Requirements we'd like to meet
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**8.1 Urgent requirements
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Affiliation_groups 8.1.4 Affiliation groups]
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***[http://en.nvcwiki.com/index.php/NVC_IT_Status#Collaborative_workspaces 8.1.7 Forums/chat rooms]
  
10. Please add "nvcIMadmin@this is scrambeld to avoid spam.com" to your contact list (applicable
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== Miscellanies links ==
for MSN/Yahoo/gtalk/ICQ)
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*http://www.yackpack.com/organizations.html
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** YackPack is simple voice communication for groups.YackPack is web-based – no software to download. YackPack lets you talk live or record & send messages.
  
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*http://www.radiohandi.com/
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**Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
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**Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.
  
B. To join the skype group
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2007/01/16/the-various-ways-visitors-can-communicate-with-blog-owners
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/12/04/visitors-can-im-chat-from-your-blog/
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*http://libraryclips.blogsome.com/2006/06/28/blog-chats/
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* Online group chat made easy http://chat.zoho.com/ 
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* Chat Services (23 sites) http://www.econsultant.com/web2/chat-services.html
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* Click this: [[Internet Relay Chat]] for info on (IRC), the original I.M.
  
1. If you currently have skype, which version do you have? (you can
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*http://www.ciolek.com/OWTRAD/iso3166-countrycodes.html
see the version at help-about in skype)
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*http://www.skyscanner.net/
  
2. if you don't have skype, please install from http://www.skype.com/download/
 
  
3. What is your skype name?
 
  
Please add "nvcIMadmin" to your skype contact list and you will get a
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== NVCtalk facilitators ==
new group in skype which will have all of NVC members with their
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[[User:John Abbe|John Abbe]]
details.
 
  
If you have any questions or need help filling this, I'll be happy to help.
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[[User:Markus Pallo | Markus Pallo]]
  
Warmly,
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[[User:Wpoehner|William Poehner]]
Noam - Moderator nvcIM
 

Latest revision as of 08:30, 31 July 2007

We welcome editing of this page, it would work best for us if you login before editing so we will know whom to approach if we have questions regarding the changes you submitted.

NVCtalk - Instant Messaging and Voice Network

What it is

Current technology offers ways to create text and voice group discussion for every kind of subject.

People can now join a certain topic discussion and every message that they send to the network, via their messenger or web interface ,will be instantly transfered to every network member.

NVCtalk - a new system which allows participants to use either text or voice to communicate using the instant messenger service they may already use (aim,msn,yahoo,skype...) , OR using the web.

We are forming this after finding value in participating in email NVC support groups and finding them valuable and enabling connections between persons, but frustrated by the lack of speed and nuance that would be available in face-to-face encounters. What we're setting up here is a supplement to both email NVC support groups and face-to-face encounters, that in some ways is closer to a face-to-face encounter without actually meeting.

This can be done at any time or at a prearranged time for that topic.

Joining - Now open

Using a messenger or web Instant Messaging Network/Email invitation

To join with your messenger:

AIM/YAHOO/MSN/Live

1. Add a user to the contact list in your preferred messenger:

For AIM/Yahoo add "NVCtalk" For MSN/Live add "NVCtalk at hotmail.com" (replace "at" with @) Other messengers are available just ask.

Do the same for every topic you would like to join:

  • NVCww - NVC World Wide general nvc talk.
  • NVCpracticing - Practice NVC
  • NVCsmart - Ask and answer NVC questions.
  • NVCexchange - NVC support eachother.
  • NVCparenting - NVC Parenting.
  • NVCinbusiness - NVC in business.
  • NVCeducation - NVC education.

We are happy to support anyone who would like to start an additional group.

2. Send a message "add me" to the new users, if you don't get a response within 24 hours, send us email.

How does it work?

NVCtalk will create a text chat room for each topic. an IM bridge is created so everyone can be in the same chat room even if they are using different messaging systems.

Current status & issues

Current status

  • Network is up and running.

Approached communities

CNVC_GCC 4 April 2007 Instant_Messaging_Network/CNVC_GCC

Communicating with Compassion 5 April 2007 Jerry Koch-Gonzalez

Ways to distribute the message

Technical side

How to realize this (the mechanics of it)

  • IM market AIM 51% - MSN 27%- Yahoo 21%
    • This is a year-and-a-half old; Skype and Goggle are probably higher now

Web interface

AIM/MSN/Yahoo

  • http://www.freeworlddialup.com/products/?p=communicator
    • From the right column there: "For instance, if you want to hold a group IM session that includes your sister (a staunch user of MSN Messenger), your Dad (a Yahoo! Messenger devotée), and your Grandma (AOL-all-the-way for Grandma), you can now do using FWD.Communicator!"
    • It does handle Skype (if it is installed on the computer)but it seems that group chat is not avilable for skype.
    • IRC might be handled via Jabber interface.

Skype

There two kinds of multi user chats in skype

1. Public chat (which I used to create the chat)

  • Requires skype ver. 3+
  • Can be published as a link
  • You can leave and then rejoin at any time by using the link or a menu in skype.

2. group chats

  • Works with any skype version
  • Cannot be published as a link (i.e. a user needs to be added to the chat by a particpator)
  • Once you leave the chat you need to be re added by a participator in order to rejoin.

If there is an an updated version for the user OS he is prompted to update when skype is lunched.

For unix,mac updated skype ver <3


  • (This one doesn't do it:) "some companies are producing IM clients that act as a front end to the different networks. One such product is Trillian Pro, from Cerulean Studios, which allows you to connect to ICQ, AIM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo! Messenger and IRC networks through a single interface. It should be noted that these clients do not offer interoperability between the various IM networks — just a unified interface through which to access them. If you are looking for true interoperability then hub software, which can actually route messages between networks, is required. We will discuss hub software in a future article." Drew Bird 5/1/2003 http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200305/ij_05_01_03a.html

Resources and groups to cooperate with

Ideas on how to attract people

Ideas on content for the network

  • World wide nvc happy hour. All people on all messengers have an online gathering.
  • Chat rooms by subject.
  • Chat rooms by language.


Future plans

cnvc IT synergy

Via NVC IT Status

Miscellanies links

  • http://www.radiohandi.com/
    • Broadcast a live event or interview. With a single phone call, listeners worldwide can tune in to your broadcast with any MP3 player.
    • Create an online chat group. Your friends, club or business associates can talk to each other via conference calls, email lists or text chats.


NVCtalk facilitators

John Abbe

Markus Pallo

William Poehner